ATC controller recalls when he asked for vertical separation to an SR-71 Blackbird crew in conflicting route with an Air France Concorde Supersonic Airliner

[Updated] ATC controller recalls when he asked for vertical separation to an SR-71 Blackbird crew in conflicting route with an Air France Concorde Supersonic Airliner

By Dario Leone
Jul 23 2023
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‘I was controlling a westbound Concorde just entering my airspace when I received details of an SR-71 coming eastbound on a route that would conflict with Concorde,’ Pete Clarke, former ATC controller.

Jointly developed and manufactured by Aérospatiale and the British Aircraft Corporation (BAC) under an Anglo-French treaty, the Concorde supersonic airliner was built in twenty samples including six prototypes and development aircraft. The aircraft entered service in 1976 and continued flying for the next 27 years.

With seating for 92 to 128 passengers, the Concorde had a top speed of Mach 2.04 (1,354 mph or 2,180 km/h at cruise altitude, over twice the speed of sound).

Air France (AF) and British Airways (BA) were the only airlines to purchase and fly Concorde.

The aircraft flew at a cruising altitude of 60,000 ft., from where passengers could see the curvature of the Earth. According to Aerotime.aero, in the same altitude bracket flew the US Air Force (USAF) SR-71 Blackbird spy plane. During the Cold War, pilots of the Concorde were asking air traffic control to move the SR-71 out of its way so it could proceed to New York’s JF as well as other destinations.

Pete Clarke, former air traffic controller (ATC) remembers in an interesting story appeared on ATC History titled Concorde in conflict with an SR-71 Blackbird;

‘If you type the above subject into your internet search it comes up with stories referring to a possible conflict between an Air France Concorde and an SR-71 which many doubt actually happened.

‘The following DID happen as I was the controller.

The Story of the Concorde Supersonic Airliner that Chased a Solar Eclipse and set a World Record
Aérospatiale/BAC Concorde

‘I have read an account from a Concorde captain on the BBC News site a few years ago who was being interviewed about Concorde after it had been taken out of service. He narrated this story as it was unique for it to be suggested Concorde could possibly be in conflict at the altitude it cruised.

‘There is also a documentary that has appeared on the “Quest” TV channel about the SR-71 Blackbird during which one captain relates this story from his perspective.

‘Here is my version.’

Flying between 55,000 to 60,000ft Concorde was above the subsonic jet aircraft. It was given this vertical profile of 5,000ft as the actual altitude the Concorde would level off at depended on the actual temperature on the day. This temperature could also vary during the crossing so the aircraft would adjust altitude accordingly. One or 2 executive jet aircraft could possibly reach 43,000ft on a good day but they were still not a problem to Concorde. On one particular day, however, I did control another aircraft that could more than match Concorde both in speed and altitude, the American military SR-71 Blackbird Mach 3+ spy plane. Sometimes military aircraft crossing the Atlantic would have a reserved route kept clear for them in order for formations of jets to refuel en-route, as necessary, from an accompanying tanker.

The SR-71 had more than sufficient range for the crossing and was operating solo. Although we would control many American subsonic aircraft like the C-141 or C-17 heavy cargo aircraft or maybe even troop carriers on our Track system they would not communicate with our HF radio station near Shannon. Instead they would use an American military HF radio station (Croughton) in Oxfordshire. Like most military units they had a regular change of staff so, generally, the radio operators had very limited experience of the operations they were handling. Keep it simple for them and it was OK. Anything out of the ordinary and it caused much confusion.

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I was controlling a westbound Concorde just entering my airspace when I received details of an SR-71 coming eastbound on a route that would conflict with Concorde. The SR-71 did not always fly supersonically, it was doing less than Mach 1 on this day, but it was still at a very high altitude. I had been told it was “above 600”, i.e. above 60,000ft. Concorde was operating up to 60,000ft and the vertical separation standard at that altitude was 4,000ft.

I sent a message to the American radio operator to ask for the exact altitude of the SR-71. A few minutes later the answer came back, “Above 600.”

I telephoned the radio operator explaining I needed the exact altitude. The radio operator’s response was, “I’ll patch you through.” The operator had a facility to operate a 2-way switch on the radio. Push it one way and you could transmit over the telephone, switch it the other way to receive. At the end of each transmission you had to remember to say “Over’ in order for the radio operator to know when to flick the switch.

I was now talking directly to the pilot of the SR-71. “This is the Shanwick controller, confirm your altitude. Over.”

SR-71, “We are above 600. Over”

Me, “I need to know your exact altitude. Over”

SR-71, “Above 600. Over”.

That time an SR-71 Blackbird flying around Cuba got a call to change heading so that a Concorde supersonic airliner could proceed to Caracas
Air France Concorde

Me, “Am I to understand you are unable to give me your exact altitude? Over”

SR-71, “Affirmative. Over”

(These aircraft had a stealth capability and could fly at very, very high altitude, often above 70,000ft. They did not, however want anyone to know exactly at what altitude they were flying so would switch off their radio signal that would indicate altitude to a radar operator once they climbed.)

Me, “OK, I have a Concorde operating westbound on a conflicting route with you at 60,000ft. I need 4,000ft vertical separation. Do I have it? Over”

SR-71, “You sure have.”

Me, “That’s all I need to know. Thanks. Out”

Just another little moment to brighten my day.

For more posts containing documents and photographic collections of UK Air Traffic Control check out ATC History.

Update: The Aviation Geek Club contributor Linda Sheffield Miller has been reached out by former SR-71 Blackbird pilot David Peters who explained: ‘We never flew below Mach 3 at altitude except in the Baltic. Next if he didn’t know the altitude code he never talked to the airplane. The SR-71 did not fly well if at all below Mach 1 if above about 33,000 feet. If he was really a controller, he would have known that we turned off mode c on the transponder. To be in contact with the SR-71 he had to have a clearance so he would have had the base altitude and would have known that we reported altitude by base plus or minus. 99 % of the time it would be plus. All you can do is shake your head.’

Photo credit: U.S. Air Force, Arthur Gibson, Spaceaero2 via Wikipedia, Air France and Adrian Meredith / Crown Copyright

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Dario Leone

Dario Leone

Dario Leone is an aviation, defense and military writer. He is the Founder and Editor of “The Aviation Geek Club” one of the world’s most read military aviation blogs. His writing has appeared in The National Interest and other news media. He has reported from Europe and flown Super Puma and Cougar helicopters with the Swiss Air Force.

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  1. DavidMHoffman3 says:

    Ridiculous response from the SR-71. By that year the Soviet Union knew the operational characteristics of the SR-71 having extensively monitored the SR-71 and A-12 operations over SouthEast Asia. The Soviet Union just couldn’t efficiently shoot SR-71s down with SAMs or AAMs at the time. The DoD once again stuffing operations with excessive secrecy that served no real purpose of effectively protecting really important information.

  2. AZFlyer says:

    I still say the story isn’t true or it was a u-2 not an sr-71. Why would the sr-71 be flying subsonic? The sr-71 spent almost all of its time above mach3 and 70k.

  3. littlepuppet2002 says:

    Yeah, not buying this ATC version of the story, seems he just wants cool points for pretending to have radio contact with our spy plane. First, like the pilot stated, IFF transponder is turned off so the controller couldn’t identify the plane although he would see a blip on his radar. Second, a competent controller would know to have the civilian Concord adjust accordingly, not the top secret spy plane, which he didn’t even know was a spy plane to begin with. For the reader saying it was a ridiculous response from the SR71, the controller made this up and wouldn’t know what radio freq to talk to the Blackbird on and if he did, it’s unlikely the pilot would respond. “Yeah controller, let me tell you exactly what altitude I’m at” lol. Btw, I’m a former Marine Corps avionics technician with 10 years active duty.

  4. RAAFAVFITnTECH says:

    I would be lead the believe they are both telling correct version of events. Though as said beforehand…. It would have had to of been a U2 and not an SR71. There is no way for him to have correct airspeed data at the Civilian control tower, just blips (altitude must be known and known to be stable etc. Clearly the Military didn’t report airspeed figures to the Civilian controller. And yes the Civilain controller would of been “patched across” as the article says… Which as a fellow avionics teach, mode 4 would be still running for secure comms on the U2. So what happens is the Military Controller becomes a repeater tower, his set would take the incoming transmissions and combine them, “PATCHING” them together…. And as it also states when either comms operater (CIV1) OR (MILPILOT1) end their transmissions. The (MILTOWER) would then flick the TX/RX switch and the comms would now basically swap over. All communication clearly would of been via the Military Tower!!!
    No Radgeek updating SECRET/TOP SECRET equipment with SECRET/TOP SECRET “daily’s” I am sure of that lol.

    And there in itself is the basis of why the F35 took so damn long to produce. Only as of around 2008 were we starting to introduce military interoperability within each Airframe, then Military Sector, then Military Force, then allied nations and NATO nations.

    My first sight of such technological advancements were all based upon the E7 and we conducted and succeeded. Platform interoperability with the world’s first Lock On After Launch (LOAL) ASRAAM strike. (Was there on the day!)

    #THEREALTOPGUNS #RAAF2OCU

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